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nasalpancho

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here are all the players who made >28MM in 2021; ones in bold had >5 bWAR

mike trout - 37MM
gerrit cole - 36MM (5.6 WAR)
jacob degrom - 36MM (5.0 WAR)

nolan arenado - 35MM
zack greinke - 35MM
stephen strasburg (oof) - 35MM
justin verlander - 33MM
david price - 32MM
manny machado - 32MM (5.1 WAR)
trevor bauer - 31.33MM
clayton kershaw - 31MM
chris sale - 30MM
miguel cabrera - 30MM
jose altuve - 29MM
giancarlo stanton - 29MM
anthony rendon - 28MM

teams aren't signing contracts using this stupid fangraphs $/WAR formula. less than 25% of all 30MM players produced >5 bWAR this year
that list is full of Oofs --- wait till Frankie makes his appearance next year
 

nasalpancho

Veteran Refugee
cole/stanton/altuve are the only guys who remotely earned their money last year --- Jake can be 5.0 War or whatever the fuck but a half season filled with half of his starts being cut short is not worth 36 mil
 

WC

sandy vagina
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they can't break it down and rebuild

their young controllable assets are who shit the bed

outside of trading degrom what would a rebuild look like

trading Alonso when he's under control till 25?
 

MAJERATI

Banned
Super Moderator
good time to talk about the gnats who still owe strasburg 175MM (35MM per season under 2026) and corbin 80MM (through 2024)
 

MAJERATI

Banned
Super Moderator
corbin wouldn't even be rostered if it weren't for his salary

strasburg may not pitch again

yikes

i guess stras might be an insurance payout though
 

You > Valent

Future POBO
they can't break it down and rebuild

their young controllable assets are who shit the bed

outside of trading degrom what would a rebuild look like

trading Alonso when he's under control till 25?
you trade deGrom for a starting pitcher who has already had at least 50% of his success in the majors, PLUS a potential superstar offensive guy who can step right in PLUS a top prospect PLUS a new Miguel Castro type PLUS blowjobs for life from porn chicks on retainer PLUS 5 automatic wins in the standings from MLB
 

Joey Dirt

Hopes Community College Can Compare
lotta oofs there. really a persuasive case to never resign a player after they reach FA
really needs to be the way of business (until MLB stops fucking the players)

if you wanna be the Rays with money - you buy out 1-3 years of guys free agency in return for giving them guaranteed & higher AAV during their arbitration years.

Now you're not losing players at 28 - you're losing them at 30. And good luck to anyone signing them to a 4-6 year deal after 30
 

MAJERATI

Banned
Super Moderator
freddie going to the angels or some shit and gonna swiftly decline. braves got the best of him at a below market deal while someone else pays for his past production
 

BennySammy

Parents should have arranged for deodorant instead
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meanwhile the Braves will give Freddie a huge deal b/c "fuck it, we're paying Albies and Acuna $43 next season."
Acuna's contract is awful, but he's at least getting paid better than most players in baseball

Albies got straight fucked by his agent...a 3-4 WAR player making $5-$7 mil a year until 2028


and I know paying Albies and Acuna $43 mil next season was meant to be hyperbole, but that's actually way more than they're actually making...Albies and Acuna are only making $20 mil combined next season
 

You > Valent

Future POBO
Acuna would get Lindor money right now coming off injury. he's making $17 mil per at the peak of his deal and $15 in 2022. pretty sure Liam Hendricks is making that. i get the contract from his side though, still a fuckin bargain for the Braves
 

tejdog1

A Tej
you trade deGrom for a starting pitcher who has already had at least 50% of his success in the majors, PLUS a potential superstar offensive guy who can step right in PLUS a top prospect PLUS a new Miguel Castro type PLUS blowjobs for life from porn chicks on retainer PLUS 5 automatic wins in the standings from MLB
v. important - who gets these?
 

You > Valent

Future POBO
Acuna's contract is awful, but he's at least getting paid better than most players in baseball

Albies got straight fucked by his agent...a 3-4 WAR player making $5-$7 mil a year until 2028


and I know paying Albies and Acuna $43 mil next season was meant to be hyperbole, but that's actually way more than they're actually making...Albies and Acuna are only making $20 mil combined next season
i meant forty three dollars
 

BennySammy

Parents should have arranged for deodorant instead
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Acuna would get Lindor money right now coming off injury. he's making $17 mil per at the peak of his deal and $15 in 2022. pretty sure Liam Hendricks is making that. i get the contract from his side though, still a fuckin bargain for the Braves
it's the agent's fault...Acuna signs a $100 mil extension, they instantly get money...if they're waiting until Acuna becomes a free agent, they have to wait to get their money...the Braves front office took full advantage of those guys
 

Hire

Veteran Refugee
Administrator
here are all the players who made >28MM in 2021; ones in bold had >5 bWAR

mike trout - 37MM
gerrit cole - 36MM (5.6 WAR)
jacob degrom - 36MM (5.0 WAR)

nolan arenado - 35MM
zack greinke - 35MM
stephen strasburg (oof) - 35MM
justin verlander - 33MM
david price - 32MM
manny machado - 32MM (5.1 WAR)
trevor bauer - 31.33MM
clayton kershaw - 31MM
chris sale - 30MM
miguel cabrera - 30MM
jose altuve - 29MM
giancarlo stanton - 29MM
anthony rendon - 28MM

teams aren't signing contracts using this stupid fangraphs $/WAR formula. less than 25% of all 30MM players produced >5 bWAR this year
I think teams definitely use WAR, or some proprietary version of it, to at least baseline a player's contract/value. There's obviously a dozen other factors though that end up determining how much a guy gets: age, injury history, competition from other teams, that year's FA class, length of contract, etc.
 

MAJERATI

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I think teams definitely use WAR, or some proprietary version of it, to at least baseline a player's contract/value. There's obviously a dozen other factors though that end up determining how much a guy gets: age, injury history, competition from other teams, that year's FA class, length of contract, etc.
but i highly doubt that they look at the average cost of WAR across baseball. it's a misleading number. it's suppressed by the fact that the most productive players in the league are on rookie salaries or under arbitration. FA WAR is always costly
 

tejdog1

A Tej
I would like to point out two things. One, Trout was hurt this year, or he was going to put up another 9-10 WAR season. And two, you guys wanted to trade for Arenado.
 

Hire

Veteran Refugee
Administrator
i hate the "well fangraphs says that a single WAR is worth about $3MM so"

no it's really not. a single WAR through FA costs like 2-3x that
I may be wrong but I believe the $8 million per WAR number that's often cited IS the free agency cost of 1 win
 
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